Should the US get involved in Darfur?

Should the US get involved in Darfur?

I say no. I'm sick of being the world's policement, except when it directly affects the US. Darfur is not of importance to the USA.

True that, as long as it's just internal strife, let them handle it or send the blue helmets in. What's been going on? What happened to that whole UN initiative in like August-September? I haven't been following that conflict at all.

If we send in the blue helmets, then the US will be in there in some capacity.

I think the US has enough on it's plate, we don't need other things to distract us from the current war.

First pull the US out of the UN and throw the UN out of the US.

Then see if the pathetic UN can even survive, let alone accomplish anything.

I really think that the UN had a noble goal when it was started, but it was designed to fail due to it's very make up.

I think we should be out of the UN as well. I doubt it will last long without the US.

I don't think anyone likes to see the murders in Darfur. But unlike the Holocaust, it does not represent a threat, direct or indirect, to the US.

Why don't all the great Africans like Nelson Mandela get together and stop it?

Oh yeah, I forgot, SA has turned to shit since the end of apartheid and they can't even secure their own savages let alone the savages in Darfur.

iluvfreebeer wrote:Should the US get involved in Darfur?

I say no. I'm sick of being the world's policement, except when it directly affects the US. Darfur is not of importance to the USA.

What he said!

Should the US get involved in Darfur?

Absolutely not!

We should allow the continued colonization of that country by China, the presence of 4000 Chinese soldiers, and the systematic raping of that countries oil wealth...

Anyone else sense a bit of sarcasm in Joahob's reply?

He does have some points there, but I don't see us being ready to tangle with China right now.

Not as long as we're stuck in Dubya's ill conceived Iraqi expedition.

iluvfreebeer wrote:First pull the US out of the UN and throw the UN out of the US.

Then see if the pathetic UN can even survive, let alone accomplish anything.

You'd be surprised.... I think that if you pull out of the UN it would become a powerful tool to counter your decisions and actions, seeing as the other major players would remain in the power seats. Even if you don't agree with their politics, you should still prob maintain membership... after all 95% of the world is a member, if you exclude yourself from it, it would also send the wrong message to the rest of the world.

iluvfreebeer wrote:I don't think anyone likes to see the murders in Darfur. But unlike the Holocaust, it does not represent a threat, direct or indirect, to the US.

Why don't all the great Africans like Nelson Mandela get together and stop it?

Oh yeah, I forgot, SA has turned to shit since the end of apartheid and they can't even secure their own savages let alone the savages in Darfur.

Yeah africa's a mess... but it's not like the West is taking steps to help.. driving African nations into debt and making them reliant on food and supply handouts has done wonders for their development. This new one project that bono's doin has beared some fruit, cancelling debts for several countries, and there are projects to give resources directly to the plebs and not the corrupt gov'ts but there's still a lot to be done.

old goat wrote:Anyone else sense a bit of sarcasm in Joahob's reply?

He does have some points there, but I don't see us being ready to tangle with China right now.

yeah i saw a tv show bout that whole situation and it looks like basically every country that won't or has problems dealing with the west is being taken over by Chinese entrepreneurs.... because their gov't doesnt dictate what nations to deal with and which aren't suited for it... when was the last time you heard China talking about embargos.

No, China is after far bigger things than embargos.

old goat wrote:No, China is after far bigger things than embargos.

im not sure you got my point (unless you're referring to taiwan) i was saying that china doesn't stop trading with other countries because of politics.. for now

The Sudan is a bad mess. It always has been. It was a bad mess when the British went in. And it'd be a bad mess for the Americans too. For the British, their ill-fated expedition to the Sudan revealed the first cracks in their empire. For the US, it would only magnify current problems.

I generally favor isolation. But if we must invade, and sometimes we must, then we should always try and get the most benefit as we possibly can. And that's exactly what Bush is not doing in Iraq.

I did indeed get your point, mine was more subtle, with their military build up they are working toward a world domination role. No sense pissing off those who you are going to soon control, either militarily or economically.