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Post by Bilbo Baggins Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:18 pm

And as a Black man I would have been much better off had Robert E. Lee been successful.

How so?
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Post by GD2GO Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:33 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:
And as a Black man I would have been much better off had Robert E. Lee been successful.

How so?

States rights.
Small federal government.
More individual liberty.
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Post by KSigMason Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:43 am

Bilbo Baggins wrote:He might know something about war, but Patton was no great leader (in the general sense of the definition).
No, he was a good leader, by definition:

a person who directs a military force or unit

or

a person who has commanding authority or influence

Also, who are you comparing him to, if any, that makes him not a leader? Most people are not leaders, even some politicians. They are managers. Not a lot of real leader any more.
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Post by Bilbo Baggins Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:56 pm

Fine fine, he was a great military leader.

States rights.
Small federal government.
More individual liberty.

You think you would have had greater individual liberty? In time, I'm sure the Confederate States (if they survived) would have improved socially, but I think its pretty optimistic to think they would have thrown away the whole 'white man better than black man' theory. Theres still racism in the US today, it would be worse in a country that fought to keep their slaves (though I do recognise that it was just one issue of many)
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Post by GD2GO Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:05 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:Fine fine, he was a great military leader.

States rights.
Small federal government.
More individual liberty.

You think you would have had greater individual liberty? In time, I'm sure the Confederate States (if they survived) would have improved socially, but I think its pretty optimistic to think they would have thrown away the whole 'white man better than black man' theory. Theres still racism in the US today, it would be worse in a country that fought to keep their slaves (though I do recognise that it was just one issue of many)

I have more personal liberty in Texas than I would in a socialist yankee state like Massacheusetts, NY, NJ, CA or Illinois.

Lincoln was one of the biggest racist terrorists in the history of the world.
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Post by Bilbo Baggins Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:35 pm

Lincoln was one of the biggest racist terrorists in the history of the world.

You actually go out of your way to make the most outrageous statements possible don't you?
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Post by GD2GO Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:58 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:
Lincoln was one of the biggest racist terrorists in the history of the world.

You actually go out of your way to make the most outrageous statements possible don't you?


I go out of my way to say the truth no matter what the politically correct cunts of the world want to hear.
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Post by Bilbo Baggins Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:52 pm

Lincoln was one of the biggest racist terrorists in the history of the world.

Then do you care to explain the reasoning behind this statement?
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Post by KSigMason Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:40 am

Bilbo Baggins wrote:Theres still racism in the US today
Affirmative action, political correctness, etc.
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Post by GD2GO Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:34 am

Bilbo Baggins wrote:
Lincoln was one of the biggest racist terrorists in the history of the world.

Then do you care to explain the reasoning behind this statement?


Already have.
Many times.
In this forum and the original CL.

Besides, it's in the Geneva convention.
Look it up!


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